These Androscoggins are from Tulsa, OK. They were received the first of April. On 11/13/02 they were measured: 16ft, 7ft, 13ft, and 13.5ft. The holes were dug 3 feet deep and 3 feet wide. A big bag of peat moss was worked into the soil, as it is quite compacted with clay. Lots of water 3 times a week. Started with a quarter cup of Scott's Turf Builder, and went up to 1 cup in August.